‘All of a sudden I hear them announce. "Yes! Now we have the new V2 signing, under Richard Branson's Label. The V2 signing 'Liberty!' And I was like - Hold on a minute?’

Two things that taught me. One, the power of music. Two, the power of a hit. Not even knowing it's a hit. Because it hadn't been out yet, but 'believing' it was a hit. 'Belief'.

‘And then the second fader gets pushed up to double track and then it just moulds together and all of a sudden, it was the sound I knew from the records! That's how they did it!’

“… I just thought, okay, she is following now. She's Dm'd me. What does the dm say? And she was really gushing about the design. She was like, 'Oh my God!' Asking me where I'm from? She goes, 'That baby doll is money!'. Like, 'We should do something together”